{"id":3807,"date":"2018-11-16T19:27:15","date_gmt":"2018-11-17T03:27:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.eaf.net\/mvp\/?p=3807"},"modified":"2018-11-16T19:27:15","modified_gmt":"2018-11-17T03:27:15","slug":"did-michelle-obama-and-donald-trump-voluntarily-damn-themselves","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.eaf.net\/mvp\/2018\/did-michelle-obama-and-donald-trump-voluntarily-damn-themselves\/","title":{"rendered":"Did Michelle Obama and Donald Trump Voluntarily Damn Themselves?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Mrs. Obama: &#8220;I&#8217;d never forgive him&#8221; (speaking of Mr. Trump).<br \/>\nMr. Trump&#8217;s response: &#8220;I&#8217;ll never forgive him&#8221; (speaking of Mrs. Obama&#8217;s husband).<span class=\"noseve\">HT:      https:\/\/www.mediaite.com\/tv\/trump-fires-back-after-michelle-obama-says-she-wont-forgive-his-birtherism-i-wont-forgive-barack\/<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Last I read, both the current President and the former first lady say they are Christians.<\/p>\n<p>Then they need to forgive anyone they are refusing to forgive. The Lord Jesus (the <em>Christ<\/em> in <em>Christians<\/em>, you know) commands it plainly:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses. But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses&#8221; (Mark 11:25,26).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I&#8217;m sure Michelle Obama and Donald Trump have read or quoted the Lord&#8217;s Prayer. Here&#8217;s a part that&#8217;s easy to coast over glibly, even unwittingly: <!--more--><\/p>\n<div class=\"quotes-half\">And forgive us our debts,<br \/>\nas we forgive our debtors&#8221; (Matthew 6:12).<\/div>\n<p>Jesus elaborated on that:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses&#8221; (Matthew 6:14,15)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Mr. President, Mrs. Obama &#8212; in the name of Jesus, forgive.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Otherwise, you&#8217;re damned. The Bible tells me so.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-size:200%; color:darkgray; text-align:center; letter-spacing:5px; margin-bottom:.2em\">* * * * *<\/p>\n<p>Here are three more verses:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven&#8221; (Luke 6:37).<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ\u2019s sake hath forgiven you&#8221; (Ephesians 4:32).<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye&#8221; (Colossians 3:13).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div class=\"quotes-half\"><strong>Are <em>you<\/em> refusing to forgive anyone?<\/strong><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.eaf.net\/pantinghart\/2009\/three-words\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.eaf.net\/mvp\/wp-content\/fatherforgivethem-b.jpg\" alt=\"Father, forgive them (Luke 23:34)\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-3811\" style=\"margin-bottom:0; padding-bottom:0\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.eaf.net\/mvp\/wp-content\/fatherforgivethem-b.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.eaf.net\/mvp\/wp-content\/fatherforgivethem-b-150x113.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.eaf.net\/mvp\/wp-content\/fatherforgivethem-b-400x300.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.eaf.net\/mvp\/wp-content\/fatherforgivethem-b-768x576.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top:-1.2em; padding-top:0; text-align:center\"><em>I need to be forgiven. And I need to forgive.<\/em><\/p>\n<div class=\"quotes-half\"><strong>To not forgive is very, very unChristian!<\/strong><\/div>\n<p>In closing, links to a bunch I&#8217;ve written previously on the subject of forgiveness:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.anabaptists.org\/clp\/youth\/8-110.html\">The Crisis of Forgiveness<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.clpcle.com\/meditations\/the-imperative-of-forgiveness\/\" title=\"The Imperative of Forgiveness\">The Imperative of Forgiveness<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.eaf.net\/pantinghart\/2018\/how-often-should-i-forgive\/\" title=\"How Often Should I Forgive?\">How Often Should I Forgive?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.eaf.net\/pantinghart\/2014\/pass-over-that-transgression\/\" title=\"Pass Over That Transgression! | Panting Hart\">Pass Over That Transgression!<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.anabaptists.org\/clp\/youth\/8-305.html\">Jesus Teaches Forgiveness<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.clpcle.com\/meditations\/a-prayer-of-repentance\/\" title=\"A Prayer of Repentance\">A Prayer of Repentance<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.clpcle.com\/meditations\/god-forgives-the-penitent\/\" title=\"God Forgives the Penitent\">God Forgives the Penitent<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.anabaptists.org\/clp\/youth\/4-398.html\">Job&#8217;s Encounter With God<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.anabaptists.org\/clp\/youth\/9-407.html\">Learning to Forgive<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.eaf.net\/pantinghart\/2014\/making-peace-with-meekness-and-forgiveness\/\">Making Peace With Meekness and Forgiveness<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.anabaptists.org\/clp\/youth\/2-296.html\">Forgiveness<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"quotes-half\"><strong>Have <em>you<\/em> forgiven<br \/>\neveryone you need to forgive?<\/strong><\/div>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When people don&#8217;t forgive, what consequences do they suffer?<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on get_the_excerpt --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on get_the_excerpt --><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"Did Michelle Obama and Donald Trump Voluntarily Damn Themselves? 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